Arek'Jaalan Mailing List W26: Ancient Races Update

From	Myyona
Subject	Ancient Races Update #8
Date	114.01.01 10:54
Content	Happy New Year and welcome to YC114 everybody. Things are still heating up in the Ancient Races division as we are still getting more projects started, such as Project Codebreaker that Valerie has announced. Personally, I have just finished first draft of the paper on The Sleeper - Jovian Connection which is a massive piece were I put together all the little pieces of clues obtained so far on the Sleepers, Talocans, Jovians and even Yan Jungs into what I see as the most fitting theory on what happened millenia ago. I recommend everybody to give it a read and leave comments on the Discussion page. Work is not done though, and I look forward to what we will uncover in the coming year. Best regards Myyona

From	Myyona
Subject	Ancient Races Update #8
Date	114.01.01 10:56
Content	Should have been update #8, sorry. How fast these things go these days. -M

From	Wyke Mossari
Subject	Ancient Races Update #8
Date	114.01.01 13:12
Content	Regarding: The Yan Jung Nation Sebast Mathon is able to "unravel the mysteries of the (Yan Jung) micro processor" using a "Binary Transpositional Code" This strongly implies the Yan Jung used binary computers. The evidence of Trinary Data and the Trinary Hub implies fundamental different approach to data processing for the Jove and Sleepers. Wyke

From	Ander Fred
Subject	Ancient Races Update #8
Date	114.01.01 13:59
Content	You start off with the assumption that the Jove and Sleepers are the same and never actually explain the assumption. Frankly, though an interesting piece of work, this doesn't amount to anything. There is little to no evidence that the Sleepers destroyed the Talocan. Indeed, the Talocan remains mechanically intact. Nor does it explain quarantine, the legends found in Ani, along with many other facets. I am unable to agree with just about anything in there, as it is all based on the assumption from one piece of trinary data, so far as I can tell. Please note, the fact that the Minmatar and Amarr empires both use the same method of FTL communication does not make the Amarr a splinter of the Minmatar, nor the Minmatar a splinter of the Amarr. Extrapolating from one piece of shared tech is just a bad idea.

From	Myyona
Subject	Ancient Races Update #8
Date	114.01.02 21:13
Content	Show me evidence to the contrary and I will be happy. I do not base my theory on the findings of the Trinary data, in fact that piece of information is not even in this article at all. I base my theory as, what I consider, the most probable explaination to all the questions it answers given the current sources available. You (anyone) are welcome to disagree completely based on no validity of your own. This is just a theory, and it is its nature to be partly or completely wrong. All the pieces of the puzzle available can be used to create more than one image, but when the question comes to what theory I can present that I feel explains the most this is the one. By the way, FTL communications? Pft, everybody knows that was invented by the Gallenteans and the only reason why the similarity in transfer protocols and technology is because CONCORD enforce it. ((link)) Regards Myyona

From	Ser Geant Pepper
Subject	Ancient Races Update #8
Date	114.01.03 01:58
Content	Myyona, Thank you very much for all of the time you spent on your excellent paper on Sleepers and Jovians. It is very well researched and contains an excellent list of references. It will be an invaluable source of information for new members of Arek'jaalan like me. I learned a lot from it. Kind regards, Ser Geant Pepper

From	Aedeal
Subject	Ancient Races Update #8
Date	114.01.03 14:14
Content	CONCORD doesn't enforce the use, it enforces the privacy. But the point is still intact anyway. And you skip on so many important points, evacuation, the Jovian disease not being infectious, there's nothing to link the Sleepers to asking the Jan Yung for help, there's nothing linking the Jovian disease to the downfall of other races. To me, it's got a lot of stuff missing. I'll concede it's a good stab at it, but it just assumes too much. It's not so much 'evidence to the contrary', it's 'evidence to support'. The problem I have is often it makes sense in my head, but I keep assumptions I made without explaining them. That may be the issue here. Afterthought: We know the FTL we use was invented by the Gallente, but I bet you the ancient races have their own FTL communications. Again, beside the point, but a nod towards the Trinary data project, the use of a similar piece of tech doesn't mean they are the same.

From	Eradan Risalo
Subject	Ancient Races Update #8
Date	114.01.03 16:04
Content	The topic is very interesting. I have read Myyona project, etc etc. All the assumptions are very intriguing. Nonetheless my point here is ; Please dont use single quote ' in your emails. This would ease the readings. Thanks, and you all are doing a great job!